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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 16, 2011 1:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Jay Lane (non-Dead?)

http://www.relix.com/features/2011/04/25/primus-still-sucking-after-all-these-years

When Claypool and LaLonde got the urge to tour again and knew it wouldn’t work with Alexander, they turned to original drummer Jay Lane who, as Claypool notes, “missed [the boat] because he left Primus before we released our first album.” It was LaLonde who made it clear that he didn’t want to tour for a quick money grab. He was only interested if he and Claypool could make it fun again and take Primus a step forward.

For years, Lane had played in Bob Weir’s band RatDog. “It’s funny that he’s playing this music again,” says Claypool. “It was funnier to me that he was playing that music because it was so different than anything he ever even knew about.”

When his old Primus compatriots came calling, Lane was actually playing in Furthur, the Dead-based project led by Weir and Phil Lesh.

“There’s a big difference between Jay playing with Furthur and Jay playing with RatDog,” Claypool says. “I have a lot of respect for Bob Weir. I like Bob; he’s a good guy. But when Jay was doing the Furthur thing, I just didn’t get it. Jay Lane is one of my two favorite drummers on the planet. Anybody that knows me knows when someone asks me, ‘What drummers do you want to play with?’ I always say Stewart Copeland and Jay. Whenever I could get him on my records, I would. I tried to get him on tours, but I felt bad pulling him away from Bob because Bob is a good guy. If Bob was a dick, I would have pulled him out of there as quickly as I could—but he’s not.”

Lane wasn’t even playing drums with Furthur but rather assuming the percussionist role a la Mickey Hart to Joe Russo’s Bill Kreutzmann, who is the band’s drummer.

“For one of the greatest drummers that I think exists, to not be playing drums—to be playing an egg shaker —that’s unthinkable,” Claypool huffs.

“To be fair, he probably had a tambourine, too,” interjects LaLonde.

“Jay should be playing drums not an egg shaker,” Claypool repeats, refusing to let it go. “And he should be playing drums to the extent of his capabilities. He wasn’t being utilized, so I didn’t feel awkward asking him to come do this. I haven’t talked to Phil [Lesh], but I’d hope Phil doesn’t feel bad. When Jayski came and played with us, it was amazing. It was like the missing link.”

“So I’m sure you’re wondering how I got back after 23 years?” Lane says, running a restless hand through his mop of black curls. “I begged for my gig, that’s how it happened. I was begging and pleading. I would still have been in [Furthur], probably. But old Claypool called me up.”

But not everyone was happy about the Primus grab. Lane began to get missives from the Dead faithful.

“I’ve gotten a few comments like, “Jay, your true tribe misses you,” he says solemnly. “But this is where I grew up and this is where I stayed in my heart.”

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: May 16, 2011 5:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jay Lane (non-Dead?)

i picked up some album by Primus very early '90s because all the kids were yammering about it; i listened once and it went right into the trash; i did it again with the Stooges 2007 'Weirdness' album, and i LOVE Iggy's music, but it was absolutely the worst album, so bad i've actually gotten to the point where i've convinced myself it never really happened just to keep myself balanced

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Poster: user unknown Date: May 16, 2011 7:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jay Lane (non-Dead?)

Arb, which album was it? My "kids" turned me on to Primus as well. Have to admit I kinda enjoy Claypool's weirdness. Not much substance, but fun anyway..."Sailing The Seas Of Cheese". And there's always the classic from the first album, "Wynona's Big Brown Beaver".

This post was modified by user unknown on 2011-05-17 02:29:26

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 16, 2011 7:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jay Lane (non-Dead?)

I've been seeing Les for over a quarter of a century and I can't recall putting on a Primus CD for more than a handful of plays in all that time (w/ exception of first 3 releases way back in the day). It's a live thing.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: May 16, 2011 6:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jay Lane (non-Dead?)

Why am i have troubles believing you picked up an album because the kids were yammering about it?

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: May 16, 2011 6:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jay Lane (non-Dead?)

ha ha, too funny; call it artistic license

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Poster: vapors Date: May 16, 2011 2:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jay Lane (non-Dead?)

Thanks for the post – I know we can depend on you to point this stuff out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyzG2VQC6Ac&;feature=related

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Poster: WillCo Date: May 17, 2011 6:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jay Lane (non-Dead?)

Les Claypool. Big thumbs-up from me. I bought Bonnaroo's 2002 DVD on impulse from a bargain bin in a Newcastle record shop here in the UK. It opens brilliantly with his reading of King Crimson's "Thela Hun Ginjeet". It turned me on to loads of new music and I still love it to bits.

Part two (YouTube splits it and you need the best part):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBDR-3tr4QQ&;feature=related

Caveat: as is sometimes the case with amazing bass players, his singing is always pretty bad; but on this song it doesn't matter.